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PASTMASTERS page 25 bet you didn't think it was a forge
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Team Stormbow
June 22nd, 2017, 1:03 pm
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This took sooo looong... I had to specifically look up images of anvils and bellows 'cause I couldn't remember what they looked like :P
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Bokuto (Guest)
January 1st, 2018, 2:22 pm
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From the chained and bloodied American Dragon Hey! I had just heard from your aunt about your manga. Awesome! keep it up! I'm having a little difficulty following the story, but i suspect its due to differences in understandings; and the fact this the story is still in its beginning. The only critique that I could offer would be to consider light sources/ shades/ and shadows; to give the images more depth. I'm learning similar ideas while working with pixel art; and lighting and shading makes ALL of the difference. :p

Good luck with it all! I look forward to seeing where this goes.
-John
Team Stormbow
January 15th, 2018, 8:00 am
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@Bokuto: Hello! Thanks for the critique!
Some of the story is supposed to be cryptic, like Limbo for example. I actually really like that you commented on that, because I'm afraid that I'm not being as clear as I could be, but you know, practice makes perfect :D.
As for shading, I'm really just kind of lazy, so I only do gradients with Gimp if the scene takes place at night or something, otherwise I mostly leave it alone. Maybe one day I'll get super rich and buy Copic Markers to do easy shading with (yeah, right -.-)
Anyway, thanks again! I'm so excited to have interested readers!
Bokuto (Guest)
January 24th, 2018, 8:29 pm
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@Team Stormbow: Gimp is amazing! If you have the time, it can be pretty easy to shade or show light shadows. Just use the airbrush, and set the opacity down to about 15-20%, moonbeams can be done the same way :p And hey, don't sell yourself short on the whole "make it rich" thing. That's part of generating an audience for any work of art, and even if only a byproduct, still and awesome byproduct. You have the potential, don't let anyone discourage it. That said, i feel you. Ableton has always been outside of my price range. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Though i have to ask, why did the centaur who questioned the dragon about the confidentiality of their war council, get kicked out as emotionally unstable? In any war, controlling the flow of information, is crucial for victory... is it something about your worlds lore, considering the dragons to be neutral and confidential in all respects, regardless of sides; and the centaur being out of bounds fro questioning her?
Team Stormbow
January 25th, 2018, 10:58 am
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@Bokuto: Airbrushing is really hard for me because I don't use a tablet (just selecting parts to fill is hard for me lol), so I think I'll just stick to good old pencils and simple shading in non-coloured pages for now...

As for the centaur thing, you got it right! I'll explain it more in detail in future chapters (it actually is a lot of the driving force for Argenta's story).
Dragons in my universe are the great historians, choosing to remain neutral in every conflict, and publish the works concerning a particular event only years (or decades, depending) after it happens. It would be crazy --not to mention insulting-- to even imply that a dragon be careless with that
Bokuto (Guest)
January 26th, 2018, 4:07 pm
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@Team Stormbow:

HA! That's cool! Even more so when you consider that Dragons, as conscious beings, they would have an agenda and purpose for doing as they do; that may cause them to blur the lines, or find "loop-holes". Perhaps that's why the mother was taken out by "the artificer / yellow general"; if the wings in the tower here are a clue? ... Only guessing, but guess work is fun. :p

As per GIMP, I just use a mouse and pointer; and a lot of the UNDO/REDO button. but then, I'm working on much smaller sizes than your artwork. I feel you on the tablet as well; i don't have one either. They're handy. There are a LOT of different apps for music AND pixel art/drawing. :p

If you're interested, I'd be willing to try my hand at touching up an image,or a frame, to show you what I mean. To be honest, this page would be interesting, but pretty hard for my skill level; yet it could still turn out pretty well.
Team Stormbow
January 27th, 2018, 12:52 am
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@Bokuto: Weeeelll, you'll see XD.
I'll only say that I dropped quite a few hints here and there for things to come.

I've tried my hand at actually colouring stuff with Gimp instead of just doing simple gradients (like this https://teamstormbow.deviantart.com/art/Those-two-guys-683965562 ) but I still never used the airbrushes before, because the strokes come out all wobbly and stuff. And just bucket-filling everything (which is what I do) just makes things seem flat. I've never tried pixel art before, isometric or not, but i really like some of the stuff I see online.

If you do want to edit a page can you send it to me afterwards? I'd like to see it.
Bokuto (Guest)
January 28th, 2018, 6:37 pm
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@Team Stormbow: .... I can be sooo impatient when it comes to the next part of a story... I'm definitely the type to binge watch an entire season or read through an entire novel in one sitting. :p telling me to wait and see is EXCRUCIATING heh. but for the sake of your busy life, i will wait and see... Or build a time machine teleporter out of cardboard boxes and the washing machine. I'm confident it can be done. XD

Now, whatchu know about tha thug lyfe?!

the colouring attempt is good! I like the spotlight and the way you show wrinkles in the clothes. Digitally, i can't work that out on my attempts for the life of me. The area's that I'd say need shading are area's like above the shoe hanging from the wall, where the light would cast a bit of a shadow up the leg... or with the neck of the dude leaning against the wall. with gimp, i find it much easier to open a new page, or multiple new pages and kind of create an easel for each primary color. A shaded variant for the reds, and the blues, and the other stuffs. The important thing about shading, is just making the same color appear darker or lighter so that what is a 2D image appears more 3 dimensional to our brains. The contrast between two colors tricks the mind into seeing a third.

https://finalbossblues.com/pixel-tutorials/

This person's tutorial's are short, simple, sweet, and they blew my mind. I may be working on much smaller frames than you, but the idea is consistent upon any scale.

And absolutely, I'll play around with the forge frame and moonlight and share if I'm able to do anything cool. I just had to reset my computer, so I need to re-download GIMP and a lot of other driver stuff. Lost most of my work, but they were only attempts and idle practices. I may also share if i make a complete mess of it... :p We could all use a good laugh yes?

PS. the brass teapot is excellent. and if i'm using incorrect terminologies, my bad.. i kind of just see everything in my head and try to attach words to the image. it doesn't always work so well with informal learnings.. *shrug*

Also, where should i send the frame when i have something to show?
Team Stormbow
February 3rd, 2018, 6:21 am
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@Bokuto: The tutorials are pretty cool, I looked at the character design and animation ones, and their tips about colour are spot on!
Since I use the select tool in gimp, anything that isn't already lineart (such as shadows, for instance) comes out all blocky and stuff, and gradients get boring if you use them too much. So, I just... use flat colour, which in my opinion is better than any alternative. Unless I faintly draw the shadow lines on paper, which I have actually tried once.

You can send it to my e-mail or my parents' :D!
Bokuto (Guest)
February 7th, 2018, 3:19 pm
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@Team Stormbow: Will do! I'm not sure what you're speaking of with blockiness and the use of the selection tool... My experience with that tool is only ever when i want to shift imagery around and such. Then again, I've yet to actually load a lineart image and give it a try. I could be operating under a complete misunderstanding :p Do you use different gradient pencils when drawing? Or do you practice using different applications of pressures with the same pencil; similar to how you can control the intensity of a note with a piano key? I've heard that either of those options can help immeasurably... then again, i still struggle with stick figures ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Team Stormbow
February 8th, 2018, 5:10 am
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@Bokuto: Both, actually, but I use pens instead of pencils. I use black ballpoint and gel pens for the outlines and then gray felt-tipped pen and pencil for detailing and shadows.

I just open the lineart on Gimp and use the 'colour to alpha' function, then create a few layers under it and colour on those. It's actually really simple, if slow... But i can't colour anything that isn't already in lineart (such as shadows) because I don't have the lineart to follow ^-^'
Bokuto (Guest)
February 15th, 2018, 5:53 pm
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@Team Stormbow: Pens?! you are a brave artist. I couldn't draw anything without an eraser or good 'ole CTRL+Z :p

I'm unsure what you mean by coloring to alpha, and creating layers below it. do you color on a layer and then anchor the layers to the primary or Alpha layer? I'm confused.
Team Stormbow
February 16th, 2018, 12:26 pm
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@Bokuto: No, I do the lineart on paper, then scan it and remove all the white background with Gimp (that's what I use the colour to Alpha function for), making it transparent, and then colouring on layers underneath it. In that way, I can't go over lines XD (it's a litle like cheating, I know)
Bokuto (Guest)
February 19th, 2018, 3:50 pm
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@Team Stormbow: OH! haha. yeah i get it. i generally end up adding the alpha layer and deleting the entire white background all-together. But then, I've never worked with pre-drawn scans. When I'm in a state of mind more conducive to creative processes, I'll play around with the shadows and touching up to show you what i meant earlier. Currently, my mind is stressing on other things. Finding a way to secure stable income and move elsewhere; to no longer be stuck here, in a stifling atmosphere with few potentials, is Primary. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Life problems when you don't have a degree, and most of the people around you seem to think it's deviant to not want to settle down with someone you would never want to settle with under ANY conditions, and raise her babies; when you haven't even found someone you would want to call wife, or lived a life worth living for yourself... :/ Crazy few years... But that's just my crap to deal with. I hope things are much less stressful on your end, and i hope school is going great for ya!